DeepSummary
In this episode, Glennon Doyle interviews poet and author Megan Falley. Megan reflects on her earliest memories of body shame and the lessons she learned about love from her family. She shares her experiences at "fat camp" during her childhood summers and how it impacted her relationship with her body and self-perception.
Megan discusses her decision to leave an abusive relationship and get a restraining order against her abusive ex-partner. She also talks about finding love with poet Andrea Gibson, which redefined for her what it means to truly love and be loved. Megan explores the complexities of body, gender, and love, and how her perspective has shifted over time.
Throughout the episode, Megan emphasizes the importance of holding nuance and complexity, rather than viewing things as simply good or bad. She shares a story that Glennon decides is the best description she's heard of what forgiveness might actually be.
Key Episodes Takeaways
- Megan Falley emphasizes the importance of holding nuance and complexity in our perspectives, rather than viewing things as simply good or bad.
- Megan reflects on her experiences with body shame and "fat camps" as a child, and how they impacted her relationship with her body and self-perception.
- Megan discusses leaving an abusive relationship and the process of getting a restraining order against her ex-partner.
- Megan's relationship with poet Andrea Gibson redefined for her what it means to truly love and be loved.
- Megan offers a poetic perspective on what love means to her, beyond just romantic love.
- Glennon Doyle expresses a desire to approach people as simply human, rather than judging them as superior or inferior.
- The episode explores the complexities of body, gender, love, and forgiveness through Megan's experiences and insights.
- Megan critiques the existence of "fat camps" for children and how they can promote body distrust and shame.
Top Episodes Quotes
- “I can look back and say, I think I was making myself so full that all I could feel was, I'm so full, I'm going to explode. So I didn't have to feel whatever else the thing was.“ by Megan Falley
- “I just so badly want to, in this next part of my life, undo all of that shit and try to approach everybody as if they are just human, not super or sub. Just like, yes, on our double date, you said something that I'm still thinking about, which is that you have, and I'm going to say it wrong, you fix it. But you struggled a lot with the way your body looks and feels your whole life.“ by Glennon Doyle
- “I feel like love is when that partition is sort of split open or whatever it is, and we're just moved by the beauty, the immensity, and we're sort of shocked into presence.“ by Megan Falley
- “I don't think that children's weight loss camps should exist, I don't think they are good. I think that they promote, at least in me, it promoted this idea of total distrust of my body and out of controlness, that I needed to live somewhere where there was a gate and counselors and any so called temptation was just not there.“ by Megan Falley
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We Can Do Hard Things
Glennon Doyle and Audacy
12/12/23
When was the first time you were made aware of your body or made to feel ashamed of your body? As promised, poet and author, Megan Falley, returns and blows Glennon’s mind with her explorations into the complexities of body, gender, and love.
Megan reflects on her earliest memories of body shame and the lessons she learned about love from her family (and how she’s able to hold both the good and the bad at once). Megan shares about her summers at “fat camp,” her decision to leave an abusive relationship, and finding love with poet Andrea Gibson that redefined for her what it means to truly love and be loved. At the end, she tells a story that Glennon decides is the best description she’s heard of what forgiveness might actually be.
For our Andrea Gibson and double date episodes, check out:
Ep 245 An Unforgettable Double Date with Andrea Gibson & Megan Falley
Ep 215 The Bravest Conversation We’ve Had: Andrea Gibson
About Megan:
Megan Falley is a nationally-ranked slam poet and the author of three full-length collections of poetry – most recently her book “Drive Here and Devastate Me”. Since transitioning to writing prose, excerpts from her memoir-in-progress have won several first- and second-place national prizes. She runs an online writing workshop called “Poems That Don’t Suck” which has been heralded as “a degree’s worth of education in 5 short weeks.”
TW: @megan_falley
IG: @meganfalley
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