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This episode is a supercombo featuring segments from previous interviews with Jocko Willink and Sebastian Junger. Jocko Willink, a former Navy SEAL commander, discusses leadership principles, mental toughness, and discipline. He shares insights on identifying good leaders, the importance of detachment, and his grueling workout routines.
Sebastian Junger, an acclaimed author and journalist, shares his perspective on war, tribal societies, and the human desire for belonging. He discusses his writing style, the impact of war on individuals and society, and the challenges veterans face when reintegrating into civilian life. Junger also shares insights on building community and finding purpose.
The episode covers a wide range of topics, including stoicism, the Iroquois peace process, PTSD, male bonding, and the role of journalists. Both Willink and Junger offer thought-provoking ideas and experiences that challenge conventional wisdom and encourage self-reflection.
Key Episodes Takeaways
- The importance of detachment and maintaining a broad perspective in leadership and decision-making.
- The significance of discipline and mental toughness in achieving success and overcoming challenges.
- The human desire for belonging and the sense of community found in tribal societies and during wartime.
- The challenges faced by veterans in reintegrating into civilian life and the potential for PTSD and other mental health issues.
- The role of journalists in documenting and sharing stories that challenge conventional wisdom and promote understanding.
- The value of stoic philosophy and its application to modern life and personal growth.
- The potential for building stronger communities and finding purpose through shared experiences and challenges.
- The importance of taking action and responsibility, especially for those with the means and education to make a difference.
Top Episodes Quotes
- “Guide to Waking up Early (Clip) | Jocko Podcast“ by Jocko Willink
- “The dichotomy of leadership is the ability to be a leader and then to step into being led.“ by Jocko Willink
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Episode Information
The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss
6/6/24
This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode #107 “The Scariest Navy SEAL Imaginable… And What He Taught Me” and episode #161 “Lessons from War, Tribal Societies, and a Non-Fiction Life (Sebastian Junger).“
Please enjoy!
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SHOW NOTES
- [06:27] Notes about this supercombo format.
- [07:30] Enter Jocko Willink.
- [07:59] What separates good leaders from mediocre or bad leaders?
- [10:01] Identifying good leadership candidates.
- [11:46] Teaching the skill of detachment.
- [16:58] Jocko’s grueling workout that made platoons “tap out.”
- [18:46] Jocko’s morning rituals.
- [20:57] People Jocko associates with success.
- [23:12] Recommended reading.
- [26:57] How does discipline equal freedom?
- [31:50] Enter Sebastian Junger.
- [32:21] Thomas Paine and Stoic philosophy.
- [34:25] The “chainsaw story” and its impact on Sebastian’s writing career.
- [38:27] Athleticism and long distance running.
- [39:00] Developing a writing style.
- [40:46] Sebastian’s attraction to journalism.
- [46:22] Sebastian’s writing style and the importance of structure.
- [55:51] Commencement speech advice for high school graduates.
- [59:09] Sebastian’s inspiration to visit war-torn countries.
- [1:01:14] Explanation of “skin walkers.”
- [1:05:00] Striving for political correctness in gender.
- [1:11:43] The Iroquois’ peace process and its relevance to modern politics.
- [1:19:15] Psychiatric effects of war.
- [1:22:07] Bringing primitive, war-time cohesion into modern society.
- [1:27:28] PTSD, the C-Train, and returning to New York City after war.
- [1:32:24] The lonely nature of society.
- [1:36:24] PTSD prevalence in elite special forces units vs. support units.
- [1:41:30] How to “support the troops.”
- [1:47:47] How a Viking helmet started — and stopped — a barfight in Spain.
- [1:53:16] Developing male closeness while decreasing violence.
- [1:59:05] Veterans becoming victims in society after returning from war.
- [2:03:27] Photography/videography habits and Sebastian’s start as a war reporter.
- [2:07:45] Tim Hetherington’s story and Sebastian’s decision to stop war reporting.
- [2:11:02] Sebastian’s future writing plans.
- [2:12:04] One thing anyone can do for a military veteran.
- [2:16:14] Who comes to mind when Sebastian hears the word “successful?”
- [2:16:46] Defining courage.
- [2:16:52] Most gifted books.
- [2:17:46] What close friends say Sebastian is exceptionally good at.
- [2:18:09] Combining three writers to create the ultimate writer.
- [2:18:47] Advice to Sebastian’s younger self.
- [2:20:07] Recent purchase with the most positive impact on Sebastian’s life.
- [2:22:16] Something Sebastian believes, despite being unable to prove it.
- [2:22:23] Disliked habits and common practices of journalists.
- [2:23:39] Advice from Sebastian’s 70-year-old self to his current self.
- [2:24:48] Knowing when to write a book.
- [2:26:53] Sebastian’s billboard.
- [2:28:22] Final requests for the audience and parting thoughts.
SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
Connect with Jocko Willink:
Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | Threads
- Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin | Amazon
- Jocko Podcast
- Echelon Front
- Victory MMA
- Why Humility is Essential to Effective Leadership | BuildWitt
- Dichotomy of Leadership is the Answer (Clip) | Jocko Podcast
- The Dichotomy of Leadership: Balancing the Challenges of Extreme Ownership to Lead and Win by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin | Amazon
- What Self-Awareness Really Is (and How to Cultivate It) | HBR
- Detach And Broaden Your Field of View (Clip) | Jocko Podcast
- Battle of Ramadi (2006)
- SQT – SEAL Qualification Training | Navy SEALs
- The Terminator | Prime Video
- Guide to Waking up Early (Clip) | Jocko Podcast
- Preaching the Pull-Up: Dead-Hang vs. Kipping | Proactiveoutside
- The Ring Dip | CrossFit
- Coaching the Clean and Jerk | CrossFit
- The Overhead Squat | CrossFit
- The Front Squat | CrossFit
- The Back Squat | CrossFit
- The Perfect Posterior: Kettlebell Swings and Cheap Alternatives | Tim Ferriss
- The Burpee | CrossFit
- The Hang Clean | CrossFit
- Eight Metabolic Conditioning Workouts for MMA Fighters | Onnit Academy
- About Face by Colonel David H. Hackworth | Amazon
- Interview with Col. David Hackworth | People’s Century, Guerrilla Wars, PBS
- Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy | Amazon
- Meet John Joel Glanton: The Scalp-Hunting Mercenary Who Terrorized The Old West | ATI
- Jocko Willink: The Relationship Between Discipline and Freedom | Forbes
- Discipline Equals Freedom: Field Manual Mk1-MOD1 by Jocko Willink | Amazon
Connect with Sebastian Junger:
Website | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
- The Perfect Storm: A True Story of Men Against the Sea by Sebastian Junger | Amazon
- War by Sebastian Junger | Amazon
- Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging by Sebastian Junger | Amazon
- Other Books by Sebastian Junger | Amazon
- Restrepo
- Sebastian Junger: Why Veterans Miss War | TED Talk
- Sebastian Junger: Our Lonely Society Makes It Hard to Come Home from War | TED Talk
- Sebastian Junger: By the Book | The New York Times
- Sebastian Junger Is Done Talking About War | Outside
- The Path of Most Resistance | Outside
- Thomas Paine: Enlightenment, Revolution, and the Birth of Modern Nations by Craig Nelson | Amazon
- What Is Stoicism? A Definition & 9 Stoic Exercises To Get You Started | Daily Stoic
- Stoicism Resources and Recommendations | Tim Ferriss
- Letters from a Stoic by Lucius Annaeus Seneca | Amazon
- The Tao of Seneca: Letters from a Stoic Master + On Groundless Fears (Letter 13) | The Tim Ferriss Show #134
- Towing the Line by M. Sebastian Junger | The Boston Phoenix
- Stuart Krichevsky Literary Agency, Inc.
- John McPhee, The Art of Nonfiction No. 3 | The Paris Review
- Scrivener | Literature & Latte
- Skin-Walkers | Paranormal Investigation
- Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) | The Canadian Encyclopedia
- Early English Settlers Believed to Have Assimilated into Tribes | Indianz
- Native American Influence on the Founding of the US | ThoughtCo.
- Pontiac’s War | Wikipedia
- Did the Blitz Really Unify Britain? | BBC News
- At Play in the Fields of the Lord by Peter Matthiesse | Amazon
- The Snow Leopard by Peter Matthiesse | Amazon
- Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari | Amazon
PEOPLE MENTIONED
- Marc Alan Lee
- Michael A. Monsoor
- Ryan Job
- David Hackworth
- Walter Cronkite
- Molly Ferriss
- Josh Waitzkin
- Bobby Fischer
- Thomas Paine
- Seneca
- Stuart Krichevsky
- Tim Hetherington
- Ernest Hemingway
- John McPhee
- Joan Didion
- Peter Matthiessen
- William Faulkner
- Yuval Noah Harari
- Naval Ravikant
- Cormac McCarthy
- Daniela Petrova
- James N. Mattis
- Émile Durkheim
- David M. Maddox
- Seth Moulton
- Martin Luther King, Jr.
- George Washington
- Ben Franklin
- Ahmad Shah Massoud
- Muammar Gaddafi
- Adolf Hitler
- Obwandiyag (aka Pontiac)
- James Patterson
- Cus D’Amato
- Mike Tyson
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