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Mark Brownstein, senior vice president of energy transition at the Environmental Defense Fund (EDF), discusses the role of methane emissions and the transition of national oil companies (NOCs) in the clean energy shift. He emphasizes the importance of addressing methane leakage, a potent greenhouse gas, from the oil and gas industry. Brownstein highlights the commitment of NOCs, which account for over half of global oil production, to cut methane emissions following COP28.
Brownstein stresses the need for a pragmatic approach, considering the economic and energy security implications for NOC-producing countries. He suggests NOCs may have longer investment horizons and better positioned to take risks in transitioning compared to shareholder-driven companies. However, Brownstein calls for deploying clean energy technologies quickly while rigorously studying their environmental impacts, such as potential hydrogen leakage.
Overall, Brownstein advocates for a balanced approach, recognizing the challenges of the energy transition while emphasizing the need for urgent action to mitigate climate change. He believes the oil and gas industry, including NOCs, must wrestle with the science of climate change as the costs of inaction are becoming increasingly intolerable.
Key Episodes Takeaways
- Methane emissions from the oil and gas industry are a significant contributor to global warming and must be addressed urgently.
- National oil companies, which account for over half of global oil production, play a crucial role in the clean energy transition and have unique challenges and opportunities.
- A balanced approach is needed, combining scientific rigor in studying the environmental impacts of clean energy technologies with urgent action to mitigate climate change.
- The costs of inaction on climate change, including financial burdens and loss of human life, are becoming increasingly intolerable.
- The energy industry faces uncertainty about future investments, but capital must be deployed quickly to develop and deploy clean energy technologies.
- Energy company CEOs and investors have a responsibility to wrestle with the science of climate change and make decisions based on its implications.
- The transition to clean energy must consider energy security and economic stability, particularly for countries heavily reliant on oil and gas revenues.
- Cleaner fuels like hydrogen may play a role in the energy transition, but their potential environmental impacts, such as leakage, must be rigorously studied.
Top Episodes Quotes
- “I fundamentally believe that there is no energy company CEO that gets a free pass when it comes to wrestling with the science of climate change, because at the end of the day, this is about quality of life on the planet. And the business as usual path does clearly provide benefits to people, but it also imposes huge costs, and we're at a point now where those trade offs are frankly no longer tolerable.“ by Mark Brownstein
- “Methane emissions from human activity are a leading cause of global warming, as methane is a potent greenhouse gas for trapping heat in the atmosphere. Methane leakage from the energy sector is just one of the many issues at the forefront today of questions over how the oil and gas industry is engaging in the clean energy transition.“ by Mark Brownstein
- “So I don't think that anyone in the energy industry can sit back and go that they know with certainty what the next ten or 20 or 30 years looks like. And frankly, if there's a downside to that, it's that capital sits on the sideline, waiting for what the obvious investments are, capital that we otherwise need to begin to deploy the technologies that we need in a relatively short period of time.“ by Mark Brownstein
- “The failure to get a handle on methane pollution, the failure to fundamentally reduce CO2 emissions, imposes huge, huge costs on the american consumer, on the european consumer, on folks in the developing world. And that these costs are not just in dollars and cents, they often are told in number of human lives lost.“ by Mark Brownstein
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Columbia Energy Exchange
Columbia University
3/26/24
Methane leakage is one of many issues at the forefront today over how the oil and gas industry is engaging in the clean energy transition. Importantly, this industry includes not only some of the better-known energy companies, but also many national oil companies. Collectively they produce about half the world’s oil and gas.
During last year’s COP28, these companies committed to cutting methane emissions and working towards decarbonizing the industry. But the energy transition for these companies is a delicate balance, as they are responsible for generating revenue and ensuring energy security for their countries.
So, how will global pledges to decarbonize impact the oil and gas industry? What is the role for cleaner fuels like hydrogen in meeting growing energy demand? How much progress is being made to curb methane emissions? And what is the role of national oil companies in the transition?
This week host Jason Bordoff talks with Mark Brownstein about the importance of reducing methane emissions and what the transition looks like for national oil companies.
Mark is the senior vice president of energy transition at the Environmental Defense Fund. He has been with EDF for almost two decades, working to halt the rise of global oil and gas emissions and accelerate the transition away from fossil fuels. Before joining EDF, Mark worked for Public Service Enterprise Group, a large electric and gas utility holding company in the U.S. He has also taught energy policy at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs.