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The transcript is a conversation hosted by Brian McComak featuring guests Jennifer Brown and Rohit Bhargava discussing their new book 'Beyond Diversity'. They explain that the book aims to provide an actionable blueprint for creating a more inclusive world, and share insights on topics such as the importance of storytelling, having open dialogues, and understanding diverse family structures.
A key theme is the need for ongoing dialogue and discussion around diversity, equity and inclusion, rather than one-time training events. The guests highlight how the book is filled with real stories and examples to engage readers. They also discuss personal learnings from collaborating on the book, such as being open to different perspectives and understanding varying thresholds for offense.
The conversation touches on challenging biases, modeling vulnerability as leaders, and creating psychologically safe spaces to learn. Jennifer and Rohit emphasize providing practical tools at the end of each chapter to help readers take action and continue the conversation.
Key Episodes Takeaways
- The book 'Beyond Diversity' provides an actionable blueprint for creating more inclusive environments through real stories and examples.
- Ongoing dialogue and discussion around diversity, equity and inclusion is crucial, rather than one-off training events.
- Understanding different perspectives and being open to learning is key, even for those working in the DEI space.
- Leaders need to model vulnerability and create psychologically safe spaces for learning and growth.
- Using inclusive language requires nuance and an openness to feedback, even from within communities.
- Providing practical tools and 'entry points' can help facilitate productive conversations around DEI.
- Examining personal biases and ingrained ways of thinking is an important part of the learning journey.
- Collaborating with diverse voices and lived experiences leads to richer insights and more well-rounded work.
Top Episodes Quotes
- “If you're not uncomfortable, you're not leading.“ by Jennifer Brown
- “We wanted to try and do is, like, spark that conversation by giving people entry points. And that's what you'll find throughout the book, these entry points, to be able to have that conversation in a way that doesn't feel like you're putting everyone on the spot or that everyone feels like they need to defend themselves going into it.“ by Rohit Bhargava
- “We haven't been asked this, actually, that watching you go through that process is wonderful. Like, that was very fulfilling for me as somebody who always needs more cisgender men in my life that, that are learning, you know, and talking about their learning and willing to be challenged and open to shifting.“ by Jennifer Brown
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Episode Information
The Will To Change: Uncovering True Stories of Diversity & Inclusion
Jennifer Brown
3/11/22
In this episode, originally recorded as a Hummingbird Hour, Rohit Bhargava and Jennifer are interviewed by Brian McComak, Founder and CEO of Hummingbird Humanity. Rohit and Jennifer share insights about their new book Beyond Diversity and reveal how the book offers an actionable blueprint for creating a more inclusive world. Discover the hidden message on the cover of the book, the need for ongoing dialogue and discussion, and why change starts with discovering our personal stories.