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Mother Natalia, a Byzantine Catholic nun, discusses the concepts of gluttony and lust from the perspective of the eight evil thoughts described by the early Christian thinkers Evagrius, Cassian, and Gregory the Great. She explores the different types of gluttony, including overeating, seeking delicacies, and changing meal times, and encourages listeners to examine their attitudes and attachments toward food and drink. She emphasizes that the goal is not just information but discernment and growth in the spiritual life.
Regarding lust, Mother Natalia argues that the problem goes beyond externals like modesty and involves a disintegration of the person, seeing others as objects rather than whole beings. She quotes from a book by Dr. Jean-Claude Larchet, highlighting that sexual union in marriage should be a manifestation of love and the union of two persons, rather than solely for procreation. She encourages listeners to see the beauty and goodness in others, rather than objectifying them.
Mother Natalia concludes by praying for the listeners and herself, asking for the grace to receive the gifts of food and relationships without objectifying themselves or others, and to see both themselves and others as integrated beings.
Key Episodes Takeaways
- Growth in the spiritual life requires discernment and guidance, not just information.
- Gluttony involves more than just overeating, but also includes seeking delicacies and changing meal times out of preference.
- One should examine their attitudes and attachments towards food and drink, and practice disciplines to cultivate moderation and gratitude.
- Lust is a disintegration of the person, seeing them as an object rather than a whole being of body and soul.
- Sexual union in marriage should be a manifestation of love and the union of two persons, not solely for procreation.
- Cultivate the ability to see the beauty and goodness in others, rather than objectifying them.
- The passions (evil thoughts) are illnesses that draw us away from God and need to be healed.
- Indulgence in pleasures like rich food can diminish our charity and resilience against other passions.
Top Episodes Quotes
- “However, this end goal, procreation, as essential as it may be, is neither the only one nor the most important in the human race. Procreation can seem more like a natural result of sexual union rather than its very purpose. Sexual union is, first of all, one of the modes of union between man and woman. It is one of the manifestations of their mutual love and translates this love to a certain level of their being, that of the body.“ by Dr. Jean-Claude Larchet (quoted by Mother Natalia)
- “And, yeah, and I think this is just a really common problem in our society. And I think that's my prayer for you all and for myself, that we can learn to see people and not just look at them and to not just see objects.“ by Mother Natalia
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Pints With Aquinas
Matt Fradd
6/10/24
Mother continues her mini series on the eight evil thoughts discussing Gluttony and Lust.
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