DeepSummary
The podcast episode discusses the case of Marie Carlson, a woman who was struggling with her mental health and became involved with a pastor named James Flanders and his wife Tanya. Marie ended up becoming pregnant with James' child, and the three were in a polygamist relationship, with Marie agreeing to act as a surrogate for the couple. However, after the baby was born, Marie seemed to change her mind about leaving the baby with James and Tanya.
James claimed that Marie became aggressive towards him, and he gave her a 'bear hug' which accidentally killed her. Instead of calling 911, he buried her body in his backyard. After a lengthy investigation, James eventually confessed and led authorities to Marie's remains in exchange for a reduced sentence of 15 years for manslaughter.
The case raised questions about Tanya's potential involvement, as well as the future of Marie's daughter Grace, who is being raised by Tanya and James' family despite Marie's sister's efforts to gain guardianship.
Key Episodes Takeaways
- Marie Carlson was a woman struggling with mental health issues who became involved in a polygamist relationship with pastor James Flanders and his wife Tanya.
- Marie became pregnant with James' child and initially agreed to act as a surrogate, but seemed to change her mind after giving birth.
- James claimed Marie attacked him and he accidentally killed her with a 'bear hug', but then buried her body in his backyard instead of calling 911.
- After a lengthy investigation, James confessed and led authorities to Marie's remains in exchange for a reduced 15-year sentence for manslaughter.
- Questions remain about Tanya's level of involvement and the future custody of Marie's daughter Grace, who is being raised by Tanya and James' family.
- The case highlights issues around mental health, polygamy, and the criminal justice system's handling of complex cases.
- It raises ethical questions about the controversial plea deal that allowed James to receive a relatively short sentence in exchange for information.
- The investigator's regret over not finding Marie's body sooner is palpable, as it likely would have led to a harsher sentence for James.
Top Episodes Quotes
- “People just seem to be very attracted to her energy.“ by Speaker B
- “Now, whenever someone is backstabbing me, lying about me, gossiping about me, trying to tear me down or whatever, you know what I want to do. My feelings say choke the life out of them.“ by James Flanders
- “He said that something about her just seemed off and that at some point later in the day, she got tired and went to her room to take a nap. And during that time, Tanya left with the baby to go shopping in Destin so that Marie could rest.“ by Speaker B
- “James told investigators that on the 17 October, Marie basically erupted on him after he told her that she needed to be hospitalized for her depression. He said that she basically began attacking him. So to try to stop her, he gave her a bear hug. And when he gave her this big bear hug, he claims that the two of them fell to the ground really hard. And at that point, he realized Marie was no longer breathing, which. Okay, I don't believe this.“ by Speaker B
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True Crime with Kendall Rae
Mile Higher Media & Audioboom Studios
7/4/24
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