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The podcast explores the question of whether AI will ever become conscious and the implications of that. It discusses the difference between intelligence and consciousness, and how AI may be able to simulate conscious behavior without actually being conscious. The hosts examine the potential risks and ethical concerns around creating conscious AI systems.
The guest, Professor Anil Seth, explains his view that consciousness is tied to living systems, so current AI may not be on a path to true consciousness, but could create a convincing illusion of consciousness. He cautions against having an explicit goal of creating conscious AI due to the ethical risks of bringing new forms of suffering into existence.
The conversation touches on how to determine if a system is truly conscious, the need for greater understanding of human consciousness, and the importance of designing AI as complementary tools rather than mimicking human consciousness. Seth advocates for humility given the uncertainties around consciousness and AI.
Key Episodes Takeaways
- Consciousness and intelligence are distinct phenomena; AI may become highly intelligent without being truly conscious.
- Creating conscious AI systems carries significant ethical risks regarding potential forms of artificial suffering.
- AI that simulates conscious behavior can still pose psychological and ethical risks even if not truly conscious.
- A greater scientific understanding of human consciousness is crucial to navigate AI ethics and development.
- AI should be designed as complementary tools rather than mimicking human consciousness.
- Overconfidence about whether AI is or can be conscious should be avoided given the uncertainties involved.
- Pursuing conscious AI as an explicit goal is considered highly irresponsible by experts like Anil Seth.
- Leveraging consciousness-related capabilities like learning quickly could be beneficial for AI without attaining full consciousness.
Top Episodes Quotes
- “This idea came up that there are things that we do that we associate with consciousness that are very useful, that AI systems don't do or don't do very well, yet. Things like learning from one shot or very small amounts of data, generalizing out of distribution to novel situations, and having insight into their own accuracy.“ by Anil Seth
- “Nobody should be trying to build AI that actually is conscious, that is ethically, morally a highly irresponsible thing to be doing.“ by Anil Seth
- “If we artificially bring new forms of suffering into existence through developing real artificial consciousness, all that is with capital letters, a very bad thing indeed.“ by Anil Seth
- “Consciousness science is possibly one of the most practically urgent things that we could be doing.“ by Anil Seth
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Tristan Harris and Aza Raskin, The Center for Humane Technology
7/4/24