The podcast episodes discuss cloud-native applications and the challenges of understanding and operating these complex, distributed systems.

In episode 57334, John Viega of Crash Override discusses their open-source project Chalk, which helps provide visibility into cloud-native applications by embedding metadata into software artifacts.

In episode 57481, Dr. Shmuel Klieger of Causely.io discusses the importance of understanding causality and building intelligent systems to effectively manage and control complex IT environments, including cloud-native microservices and applications.