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The podcast episode discusses efforts by scientists to explore ways of engineering the climate to counteract global warming, as decades of attempts to cut carbon emissions have failed to significantly slow the rate of global warming. One technology being tested is marine cloud brightening, which aims to make clouds more reflective to bounce more sunlight back into space and reduce the amount of heat trapped in the Earth's atmosphere.
Reporter Christopher Flavelle witnessed the first outdoor test of a machine designed to spray salt particles into the air to potentially brighten clouds. The test, conducted on a decommissioned aircraft carrier in San Francisco Bay, aimed to evaluate whether the aerosols sprayed from the machine maintain the desired size and distribution once exposed to outdoor conditions like wind and humidity.
While these geoengineering approaches offer potential solutions to temporarily mitigate global warming effects, they also raise concerns about moral hazard, unintended consequences, and governance challenges in deciding when and how to implement such interventions on a global scale. Researchers emphasize that these technologies are not alternatives to reducing emissions but rather ways to buy time as efforts continue to transition away from fossil fuels.
Key Episodes Takeaways
- Efforts to reduce carbon emissions have failed to sufficiently slow global warming, prompting scientists to explore geoengineering solutions like marine cloud brightening.
- Marine cloud brightening aims to make clouds more reflective to bounce sunlight back into space and reduce trapped heat, but its feasibility and potential side effects are still being tested.
- The first outdoor test of a machine designed for marine cloud brightening was conducted, spraying salt particles to assess if they maintain the desired size in real-world conditions.
- Geoengineering approaches like marine cloud brightening have raised concerns about moral hazard, unintended environmental consequences, and governance challenges in implementing them globally.
- While risky, these technologies are seen by some as necessary considerations to temporarily mitigate climate change impacts as society struggles to transition away from fossil fuels.
- There is uncertainty about whether society will adopt and scale these technologies quickly enough before the worst effects of climate change become reality.
- The episode highlights the urgency of the climate crisis and the need to explore all potential solutions, even drastic ones, as traditional emissions reduction efforts have fallen short.
Top Episodes Quotes
- “If you start deliberately changing the cloud system, well, what else might happen that we haven't anticipated? Do you move the location of where rainfall happens? Do you perhaps upset the monsoon cycle in India? Do you change the ability to grow food in parts of the world? So if you do this at a bigger scale, the consequences of those potential side effects get more and more severe.“ by Christopher Flavelle
- “Okay, this is a big day for me. Yeah. This is the culmination of years of work.“ by Unnamed Scientist
- “I am constantly amazed at the ingenuity of the researchers I come across in my job every day. What I don't yet know about is whether or not society will move fast enough to adopt and apply those ideas before the conditions that we face from climate change become almost unbearable.“ by Christopher Flavelle
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The Daily
The New York Times
4/5/24
Decades of efforts to cut carbon emissions have failed to significantly slow the rate of global warming, so scientists are now turning to bolder approaches.
Christopher Flavelle, who writes about climate change for The Times, discusses efforts to engineer our way out of the climate crisis.
Guest: Christopher Flavelle, who covers how the United States tries to adapt to the effects of climate change for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- Warming is getting worse. So they just tested a way to deflect the sun.
- Can we engineer our way out of the climate crisis?
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.