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Tom Calster and Mike Ingram welcome Catherine Nichols to discuss Anne Bronte's novel 'The Tenant of Wildfell Hall,' which explores a disastrous first marriage and a more promising second one. They analyze the book's portrayal of unhappy relationships, abuse, and gender dynamics.
The group delves into the novel's structure, with Nichols noting the pleasures of 19th century fiction and the didacticism in Bronte's depiction of a flawed, drunken husband contrasted with a more dignified romantic prospect. They consider whether the book succeeds as a work of 'moral physics' offering lessons about marriage.
The conversation touches on pedagogical approaches to teaching such novels today, the epistolary framing device's credibility issues, and Nichols' perspective that while illuminating, the book lacks sufficient humor and levity amid its harrowing subject matter.
Key Episodes Takeaways
- The novel 'The Tenant of Wildfell Hall' by Anne Bronte offers a harrowing portrayal of an abusive marriage and contrasting perspectives on more positive marital unions.
- While admiring the novel's vivid depiction of moral issues around marriage, the guests critique its lack of levity and dynamic character interactions compared to other Bronte works.
- The novel's epistolary framing device, while a convention of the era, strains credibility at times with its expansive letter formats.
- The novel is seen as making an implicit feminist argument for women's independence and autonomy in escaping abusive relationships.
- Pedagogical approaches to teaching such 19th century novels today could involve prompting discussions of moral lessons, gender dynamics and social critiques embedded in the narratives.
- Incorporating more realism about the pleasures and pitfalls of early courtship could have enriched the novel's portrayal of marital themes.
- Aspects like the book's perspective on gossip and the contrast between dignified propriety versus debauchery shape its worldview around proper male-female relationships.
- While appreciating the novel's lasting literary value, the guests find its grim outlook limits its broader appeal as an artistic achievement.
Top Episodes Quotes
- “If your movie book, whatever, hasn't already shown why these people like each other, what about them clicks, then listing it at the actual moment of make out is not going to save it. It's like you've already failed.“ by Katherine Nichols
- “So it's supposed to be somewhat based on the relationship of Lord Byron and his wife, who is Ada Loveless's mother. Like, you know how Ada Lovelace supposedly invented computers? Because her mother was like, my child will only learn math so that she doesn't ever turn out at all like Lord Byron, her father.“ by Katherine Nichols
- “You know, it's like, there's something about the way that the book believes gossip operates, that gossip is like something that wicked people use to besmirch the reputations of good people, make their lives worse, and that the right way to be person is essentially to keep to yourself a lot and to just, like, keep your nose extremely, extremely clean.“ by Katherine Nichols
- “Early on, after their engagement is, I think it's after their engagement is announced, she's like, why aren't you happy? And he's like, well, all my friends are mad at me because I'm not going to hang out anymore.“ by Tom Calster
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Book Fight
Mike Ingram and Tom McAllister
5/13/24
Our "marriage plot" season continues, with freelance writer and podcaster Catherine Nichols joining us to talk about the "least fun" Bronte sister, and her novel about what happens when you marry a drunken frat boy (or whatever the 19th-century equivalent of a frat was).
Check out Catherine's podcast, Lit Century, in which she and author Sandra Newman read through the 20th century, one year at a time: https://lithub.com/author/litcentury/
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