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The episode discusses Israel's planned ground invasion of Rafah in Gaza, where over 1.3 million Palestinian refugees have been displaced amid Israel's bombardment and assault on the region. Tariq Baconi, a Palestinian policy expert, provides historical context on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and analyzes the current situation, including the level of destruction rendering Gaza uninhabitable, the international community's failure to hold Israel accountable, and the prospect of forced mass displacement of Palestinians by Israel.
Baconi explains how the situation in Gaza reflects the culmination of the Zionist project and Israeli settler colonialism, aiming to depopulate Palestine and maintain a Jewish majority state. He criticizes the idea of a two-state solution as legitimizing apartheid and argues that real accountability and dismantling of the apartheid regime is necessary for a sustainable resolution.
The episode also examines the role of Egypt, which has enforced the blockade on Gaza while warning against mass displacement of Palestinians into its territory. Baconi expresses skepticism about meaningful change coming from within Israel or the international community's commitment to failed policies, but finds hope in the growing mobilization and understanding of the Palestinian cause, particularly among younger generations.
Key Episodes Takeaways
- Israel's planned ground invasion of Rafah in Gaza could lead to a mass displacement of over 1.3 million Palestinian refugees, exacerbating an already dire humanitarian crisis.
- The ongoing assault on Gaza reflects the culmination of the Zionist project and Israeli settler colonialism aimed at depopulating Palestine and maintaining a Jewish majority state.
- The level of destruction in Gaza has rendered it uninhabitable, making a return to the previous status quo virtually impossible.
- The idea of a two-state solution is seen as legitimizing apartheid, and real accountability and dismantling of the apartheid regime is necessary for a sustainable resolution.
- Egypt has enforced the blockade on Gaza while warning against mass displacement of Palestinians into its territory, driven by security concerns and economic considerations.
- There is skepticism about meaningful change coming from within Israel or the international community's commitment to failed policies.
- Growing mobilization and understanding of the Palestinian cause, particularly among younger generations, provides a glimmer of hope for a just resolution.
- The violence and dispossession occurring in the West Bank reflects the continuation of Israel's colonial project aimed at expanding its territorial control and settlement enterprise.
Top Episodes Quotes
- “The reality is that the status quo or the paradigm that we existed in before October 7 was a paradigm in which no one was talking about Palestine, and Palestinians were dying constantly. And now we're living in a paradigm where we're actually talking about the root causes of suffering in Palestine, which is colonization, genocidal violence, attempts at ethnic cleansing.“ by Tarek Bakaroni
- “And the truth is that the settlement enterprise is fundamentally a labor enterprise and that there's no consensus within Israel that actually limits the kind of settlement outgrowth or colonization of the West Bank. It's misunderstanding how this regime has operated since 48 and continues to do so today.“ by Tarek Bakaroni
- “I think what's happening in the West Bank shows actually the continuation of efforts to colonize and expand the Israeli state.“ by Tarek Bakaroni
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The Intercept
2/14/24
On Friday, Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced plans for a ground invasion of Rafah, where at least 1.3 million Palestinians are sheltering; the vast majority are refugees who have fled their homes. Israel’s most recent bombardments on Rafah have killed at least 14 people in a set of strikes on Thursday and upward of 100 on Monday. This week on Intercepted, guest host Sharif Abdel Kouddous — a contributing writer for The Intercept — and Tareq Baconi discuss Israel’s latest assault on Gaza, the history of Palestine, and prospects for the future. Baconi is the president of the board of Al-Shabaka: The Palestinian Policy Network, a former senior analyst for the International Crisis Group on Israel/Palestine, and author of “Hamas Contained: The Rise and Pacification of Palestinian Resistance.”
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