DeepSummary
In this episode of Spiraling, Katie and Serena discuss their struggles with anxiety related to guilt, shame, and embarrassment. Katie shares a spiral where she worried about coming across as a 'stalker fangirl' after enthusiastically praising someone she interviewed for her podcast, while Serena talks about her difficulties saying no to requests, causing anxiety and guilt.
They explore how overthinking and fixating on embarrassing moments can fuel anxiety spirals. Serena recounts an amusing but cringe-worthy incident where she accidentally kissed an acquaintance on the lips. Katie emphasizes the importance of self-compassion, owning up to mistakes, and allowing time to heal feelings of shame.
The co-hosts also touch on broader themes like the challenges of maintaining integrity, setting boundaries, and finding the right balance between apologizing sincerely and over-apologizing. Throughout the conversation, they draw insights from personal experiences and interactions with friends and therapists.
Key Episodes Takeaways
- Overthinking embarrassing moments and feeling guilt or shame can fuel unhealthy anxiety spirals.
- Self-compassion, vulnerability, and giving situations time are vital for moving past shame and embarrassment.
- While apologizing sincerely is mature, over-apologizing without understanding why can be counterproductive.
- Setting boundaries respectfully by saying 'no' is important for protecting one's energy, despite the anxiety it may cause.
- Laughter and calling out awkward moments as they happen can help diffuse embarrassment.
- Our anxiety can sometimes stem from judging in others what we don't accept about ourselves.
- It's important to make sure apologies acknowledge the other person's feelings rather than just saying 'sorry' dismissively.
- Small embarrassments often feel bigger in the moment than with the perspective of time.
Top Episodes Quotes
- “The problem is here and now and goes with me no further.“ by Katie Dalebout
- “I have so many, like, similar hug handshake things that, like. And Logan will see me when we. I do an awkward hug handshake thing. Sometimes. And then I will, like, visit. I will visibly, like, shudder when the person walks away.“ by Serena Wolf
- “What you don't own owns you. So, like, if you just own it, like, it's not going to hurt you anymore.“ by Katie Dalebout, quoting friend Lacy Phillips
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Episode Information
Spiraling with Katie Dalebout and Serena Wolf
Katie Dalebout & Serena Wolf, Katie Dalebout , Serena Wolf
11/2/21