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The transcript features interviews with participants of an upcoming debate on whether anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism. Douglas Murray and Natasha Hausdorff argue in favor of the motion, while Mehdi Hasan and Gideon Levy argue against it. The participants discuss their motivations for taking part in the debate, their views on Zionism and anti-Semitism, and the broader context surrounding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Douglas Murray believes the word "Zionist" has become a pejorative, and hopes the debate can shed light on the issue. Mehdi Hasan sees it as a debate about racism, ideology, and free speech, arguing that criticism of Zionism is distinct from anti-Semitism. Gideon Levy defines Zionism as Jewish supremacy between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean, and anti-Semitism as hatred towards Jews.
The participants reflect on media coverage of the conflict, the surge in anti-Semitism, and the potential consequences of Israel ceasing to exist as a Jewish state. They express hopes for a substantive and civil discussion that can offer new perspectives on this complex and divisive topic.
Key Episodes Takeaways
- The debate aims to provide clarity and nuance to the often-charged discussions around Zionism and anti-Semitism.
- Participants have differing perspectives on the definitions and historical contexts of Zionism and anti-Semitism.
- There are concerns about conflating criticism of Israel's policies with anti-Semitism, and the potential consequences of such conflation.
- The debate will explore the role of ideology, racism, and free speech in discussions around Israel and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
- The participants hope to offer new perspectives and facilitate a substantive, civil discussion on this divisive issue.
- Media coverage of the conflict and the recent surge in anti-Semitism will be addressed.
- The potential future scenarios for Israel, including the possibility of it ceasing to exist as a Jewish state, will be discussed.
- The debate aims to bring light and understanding to a complex and emotionally charged topic.
Top Episodes Quotes
- “I think a lot of people don't really know what they mean when they accuse somebody of being a Zionist.“ by Speaker A
- “There is no other explanation. Zionism was vital to create the state of Israel, to give a safe place for hundreds of thousands of Jews, refugees from the Holocaust, including my parents. But the moment that the state of Israel was created and was well established. We don't need any this anymore.“ by Speaker E
- “If we continue to ignore the world and to label the whole world as anti semitic, we will find ourselves as a new North Korea.“ by Speaker E
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Episode Information
The Munk Debates Podcast
Munk Foundation / iHeartRadio
6/11/24
On June 17th four debaters will take to the stage at Toronto’s Roy Thomson Hall for a sold out debate on Anti-Zionism.
The motion up for debate: Be it Resolved, anti-Zionism is antisemitism
On this special Munk Dialogue, we speak with each of the debaters to get a sense of their arguments heading into the debate, and what it is about this particular topic that made them want to participate.
Arguing for the resolution is award-winning journalist, best-selling author, and former Munk Debater Douglas Murray. His debate partner is Natasha Hausdorff, an international law expert and legal commentator on antisemitism.
Opposing the resolution is Mehdi Hasan. Mehdi is a best-selling author, former MSNBC anchor, and the CEO and editor-in-chief of the new media company Zeteo. He will be joined by the award-winning Israeli broadcaster and Haaretz columnist Gideon Levy.
The host of the Munk Debates is Rudyard Griffiths
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